“I love it, because I’m collaborative,” says Marshall, who co-founded Osiris with fellow Phish historian RJ Bee in 2018. They recently merged those three into one definitive Phish podcast. Until recently, Osiris Media had three Phish podcasts: Along with Marshall’s Under the Scales, there were the Helping Friendly Podcast and Beyond the Pond. (According to the podcast, Fishman would wake up at 5 a.m., drop acid, go to sleep only to rise again at 7:30 “with psychedelic consequences.”) They also talk to Jeff Holdsworth, the band’s original second guitarist, who left the band after a spiritual awakening on a trip to Alaska. Undermine goes deep, tracking down early fans like Lindsay McCord-Norman, who lived within earshot of drummer Jon Fishman at UVM, and heard Fishman practicing drums in his room at all hours. “How did they go from a two-guitar band to a guitar with a keyboard player? What motivated some of some of those decisions? How did they go from covers to writing stuff?” “I missed a whole lot of the development of Phish,” says Marshall, who was at school in New Jersey at the time.
Now, he’s tackling the band’s entire history with a new series, Undermine the first season explains how the band went from playing cafeteria gigs at the University of Vermont to Madison Square Garden in 10 years. He has hosted 79 episodes of Under the Scales, which delved into Phish culture with rotating guests who included Vampire Weekend’s Ezra Koenig and the members of Phish.
Marshall is also the creative director at Osiris Media, a company that has produced more than 40 music podcasts. “I have to have probably 20 poems ready to go.” “I have to stay creative to get in shape to be ready for Trey’s incredible to spit out music,” he says of their songwriting sessions. He has writing credits from the mid-Eighties all the way through Sigma Oasis, the album that Phish released last year. Marshall is the lyricist behind some of Phish’s most well-known staples, including “ Wilson,” “ Bouncing Around the Room,” “ Chalk Dust Torture,” “ Sample in a Jar,” “ Rift,” and more. Tom Marshall met Trey Anastasio in the eighth grade in Princeton, New Jersey, and they’ve been making music together ever since.
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